Black Caviar win no 23

I'm certainly not blaming you at all, Millsy.

Someone else has been a bit careless and that will become clear before long

redandblack wrote:I'm certainly not blaming you at all, Millsy.

Someone else has been a bit careless and that will become clear before long

Ok I'll see you round 1

redandblack wrote:I'm certainly not blaming you at all, Millsy.

Someone else has been a bit careless and that will become clear before long

What on earth is that supposed to mean?

The only posters who have hijacked this thread R&B is yourself and HTWWW. Prior to you having your 2 bobs worth it was a discussion about Black Caviar and Vain.

Bayman, thanks for your post. I apologise if you made an honest mistake, it just seemed to me to be a ludicrous response to a what was a rational discussion. I have overreacted and I'm happy to go on record and apologise for that.

Information has been revealed to us that sheds more light on the conversation on this thread.

We will give more detail soon and thank posters for their understanding.

Carbine's entry into the Racing HoF is photographs only

The response by some on this particular subject is silly, this is just becomming a forum for some to argue and get the subject that we are talking about locked.

No longer can we comment on the community effort by players and members of the Bloods doing volunteer work because of a few F@#KWITS that have been responsible for it to also being locked.

I understand your frustration, testy, but please abide by the site rules relating to swearing.

When a new site such as this starts, with a different philosophy, some people will be so childish as to constantly spam the site, jealous of its success.

We know who those people are and I'm sure you can guess.

What I will say is that we will protect our genuine posters such as you and so many others from trolling.

Meanwhile, please bear with us while we deal with it.

We'll now unlock the West project thread and take note of any disruption to genuine posting.

Sorry to all on this site I meant to say dimwits, my profound apoligies and I will refrain from swearing @@#$%

bayman wrote:Vain won 4 races in one week during the Melbourne Cup Carnival, i doubt that this mare could do that (not that she has to prove that)

barring Hay List most of her opponents have been sub standard especially compared to Vains opponents, it does mean that she has been well placed & it isn't her fault the opposition isn't there

Vain would have been unbeaten except for illness or injury (can't remember which it was now) & the other was jockey error, Roy Higgins had a ride when the normal jockey was (Pat Hyland ?) wasn't available & the professor said it was his fault as he made the error

otl, do you remember Minuetto ?


i know some racing journalists who on air & in papers praise all the accolades she deserves & they all think the same & that being she is very good but not as good as people think & i'm also in that category

by the way Carbine was the best galloper i ever witnessed

Vain "only" won three races over the week of the Melbourne Cup Carnival. A stayer of some ability called Phar Lap won 4 races over the Melbourne Cup week.

Vain's two losses both involved Roy Higgins. After winning the Golden Slipper it poured with rain for the next couple of weeks and trainer Jim Moloney couldn't put the work into Vain that he wanted. Beau Babylon ridden by Roy Higgins thus beat Vain ridden by Pat Hyland. Vain turned the tables in the Champagne Stakes when he beat Beau Babylon by 6 weeks. As a three year old Vain lost to champion New Zealand middle distance youngster, Daryl's Joy over a mile. The general consensus at the time that Vain was too brilliant to run the mile. But then Vain turned the tables on Daryl's Joy next start in the Caulfield Guineas. He then went on to win the three races in a week over the cup carnival.

For what it is worth, Higgins thinks that Manikato is the greatest sprinter he ever rode, but maybe his view would be different if he had been Vain's regular rider. Then again how often did he ride Manikato, G. Willetts was its regular rider.

And of course there is no film of Carbine, but interestingly if you read any articles from the 1930s about Phar Lap, to a man anyone who saw them both, and remember there would have been plenty given that they were only 40 years apart, all rated Carbine superior to Phar Lap.

As an avid fan of thoroughbreds, I can't get into this discussion about who was the best, and to start to comparing horses from different era's is not my on my agenda.

Training ,tracks , feed and jockeys all come into today's equation and to try equate this to todays way of training a horse is just far to hard.

I love watching Black Caviar racing, BUT, most of the opposition she has faced have been very inferior as far as ability is concerned.

Recommend all to attend early morning training session at Morphetteville, is great -I love to watch these magnificent animals.

However, when I was young my uncle who was a jockey caught me having a bet and took me to the stables to watch everybody from the trainer, connections and strappers give the favorite a drink of water so that it could not run up to ability - moral that he wanted to teach me was do not bet as there is too many interested parties

well Black Caviar juggernaut continues with a sell out performance coming up at a night meeting, i wonder how the AFL feels about the timing of the race given a round 1 match will be staged at the same time

the race is scheduled to fit in at half time of the match and channel 7 will be showing the race i believe

Can't wait to see her race again but I do also hope the field is a reasonable one, not just 4 or 5 other horses and some of those from the Moody stables to boost the numbers.

The Emperor wrote:the race is scheduled to fit in at half time of the match and channel 7 will be showing the race i believe

i think we all know that, i'm saying with a sell out at the races, the crowd at the football will be somewhat smaller

did Black Caviar impact the crowd for the crows v cats last year??

I dont know what the crowd figure was, i was at morphettville.

bayman wrote:

The Emperor wrote:the race is scheduled to fit in at half time of the match and channel 7 will be showing the race i believe

i think we all know that, i'm saying with a sell out at the races, the crowd at the football will be somewhat smaller

Footy is in Adelaide she is racing in Melbourne

Thiele wrote:

bayman wrote:

The Emperor wrote:the race is scheduled to fit in at half time of the match and channel 7 will be showing the race i believe

i think we all know that, i'm saying with a sell out at the races, the crowd at the football will be somewhat smaller

Footy is in Adelaide she is racing in Melbourne

well that shows you how much interest i have in the AFL doesn't it ?

Can't wait to see the greatest go around again! Looking at Sat race she would have won that quite easily.

Funny to see the difference between the spints with her in them and the sprints without her - the cruising pace of the first 6 furlongs must be so much quicker with her in there... everything is usually completely off the bit by then.

Never seen a horse consistently put pay to her rivals so early and so easily in races.

The Mighty Mare back on Friday - half time in the footy friday night - word out is that she will be the shortest priced Group 1 runner in history. Who's excited?

Me.

Looks like you and me addy

You can add me to that.

History being made

bigclock wrote:The Mighty Mare back on Friday - half time in the footy friday night - word out is that she will be the shortest priced Group 1 runner in history. Who's excited?

She has started at $1.05...so I can only assume it will be the $1.00?

Booney wrote:

bigclock wrote:The Mighty Mare back on Friday - half time in the footy friday night - word out is that she will be the shortest priced Group 1 runner in history. Who's excited?

She has started at $1.05...so I can only assume it will be the $1.00?

I wonder if they would consider not taking bets on her? Surely They are not legally allowed to let her start at $1.00 for a win and place? Bayman???

Also - are they allowed to run a all other runners SP market - so normal TAB price with her as a scr?