SANFL 1960-1999

geez !! not that bad 4 years out from something that happened 40 years ago

The SANFL footballer who has recently had a statue of himself mounted at Adelaide Oval has a birthday today
Born 25/9/1947
Perhaps the greatest SANFL footballer of all time turns 68 today
Barrie Robran

WEST TORRENS RELATIVE SPEAKING  1974

This is quite remarkable
Five sets of brothers played for West Torrens in 1974

BILLS
Fred
Brenton

COUSINS
Peter
Michael

FORBES
Alan
Murray

WHITE
Greg
Scott

PAVLICH
Mark
Steve

Steves son is AFL star Matthew Pavlich

Played cricket with Greg White.

Scrappy wrote:WEST TORRENS RELATIVE SPEAKING  1974

This is quite remarkable
Five sets of brothers played for West Torrens in 1974

BILLS
Fred
Brenton

COUSINS
Peter
Michael

FORBES
Alan
Murray

WHITE
Greg
Scott

PAVLICH
Mark
Steve

Steves son is AFL star Matthew Pavlich

It is not as remarkable as it seems. Families were bigger and there were a lot more brothers play together in those days. In 1970-71 North had at least 6 sets of brothers who played league.
Barrie and Rodney Robran

Dennis and Neil Sachse

Michael and David Burns

Maurie and Ken Francou

Kevin and Jeff Barr

Peter and Paul Schulz

I am sure that at least 5 sets would have played together in one of those years.

To continue with the family theme, Maurie is the father of Josh, Michael is the father of Scott Burns and Paul is the father of Jay Schulz.

North do seem to have had a lot of brothers play for them and even on Sunday had the Craig and Thring brothers in the team.

Could Scott Burns have played for NA under a father/son ruling ?

Scrappy wrote:Could Scott Burns have played for NA under a father/son ruling ?

I don't know how it works in the SANFL.

Certainly Norwood got the Gallaghers and Fosdikes even though they lived in the Glenelg area.

Of much more recent times, Ryan Burton and Ben Jarman have both come to North as father/sons so I assume that Scott Burns could have come to North.

Michael and David Burns were both at North in the dual premiership years but David was the only premiership player. Michael then left and played for a number of years at West. When Scott appeared at Norwood I thought that Michael may have had some "bad blood" with North but Michael is a current day sponsor at North and a number of North players have worked for his business.

Michael and David's father and uncle, Ken and Brian Burns were at North in the previous dual premiership years of 1930-31 but I think once again only one of the players was a premiership player.

Speaking of brothers, Graham Cornes has often mentioned that Glenelg once had a team with 4 players called Long in the side, but I can't find when it happened. The 4 Longs were two sets of brothers, Doug and his brother Bruce Long and John Long and his brother who I have no recollection of at all.

the Phillis brothers at the bay

wasn't there a family that had 5 or 6 brothers play WAFL footy together & that same family produced 15-20 players to have played in the WAFL of a couple of generations or so, i think the name is Doig...if not it is something like that

Lee wrote:Played cricket with Greg White.

GREG WHITE
1976 Best and Fairest winner at West Torrens
Greg was a very good midfielder type
Milan Faletic was runner up with 50 votes
West Torrens were wooden spooners that season
They won twice in the first 5 rounds , the win less for the remainder of the season

Allan Green won the best team man award with 47 votes
Once again Milan Faletic was runner up with 46 points


VFL CHAMPS
Two of the VFL greats were invited as guest speakers for the night
They were Teddy Whitten and Bobby Skilton ,
Both arguably the best players to have represented the old Footscray and South Melbourne clubs
Both clubs have since had identity changes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TeXyRYk2DA&spfreload=10

First Semi Final 1964
ST...1-1...3-4...7-12...12-14
GL...0-2...5-5....8-7....12-9

Different style of game back then
Hip and shoulders
One umpire KG Cunningham
No sideways kicks
No Interchange
Screw Punts

GL might have been stiff ?
Towards the end of the match, with about 1-2 minutes left , Mcgowan of Glenelg was pinged for running too far
His kick was marked in the forward pocket , then it was called back for a ST free kick

Whats your decision ?
Its about the 8:00 minute mark on the clip

Scrappy wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TeXyRYk2DA&spfreload=10

First Semi Final 1964
ST...1-1...3-4...7-12...12-14
GL...0-2...5-5....8-7....12-9

Different style of game back then
Hip and shoulders
One umpire KG Cunningham
No sideways kicks
No Interchange
Screw Punts

GL might have been stiff ?
Towards the end of the match, with about 1-2 minutes left , Mcgowan of Glenelg was pinged for running too far
His kick was marked in the forward pocket , then it was called back for a ST free kick

Whats your decision ?
Its about the 8:00 minute mark on the clip

What a find, Scrappy.

rocket_rooster wrote:

Scrappy wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TeXyRYk2DA&spfreload=10

First Semi Final 1964
ST...1-1...3-4...7-12...12-14
GL...0-2...5-5....8-7....12-9

Different style of game back then
Hip and shoulders
One umpire KG Cunningham
No sideways kicks
No Interchange
Screw Punts

GL might have been stiff ?
Towards the end of the match, with about 1-2 minutes left , Mcgowan of Glenelg was pinged for running too far
His kick was marked in the forward pocket , then it was called back for a ST free kick

Whats your decision ?
Its about the 8:00 minute mark on the clip

What a find, Scrappy.

Agreed.

Some of the players I recognized were John Halbert, Baggy, John Murphy, Roger Dunn, Bruce Jarrett, Brenton Adcock, Teddy Langridge, Daryl Hicks, Doc Clarkson, Terry Short and I think number 28 is Leigh Whicker. I can recognize Harry Kernahan, Brian McGowan, Haydn Linke, Ray Button and Colin Richens for Glenelg.

Did you notice that even though it is inclement weather with umbrellas up in the crowd, Baggy still kicks a drop kick. Daryl Hicks is fantastic early and Colin Richens does a couple of brilliant things for Glenelg.

RAY BUTTON
if you watched Ray Button , you would love Australian Rules Football even more
He won leading goal kicker at Glenelg a few times
Ray Button once kicked 11 goals against Woodville in 1967
A sensational footballer

In the late 1960s Glenelg had some potent forwards
Ray Button, Fred Phillis and Royce Hart just to mention a few

MR MAGIC
There were 2 Mr Magics in the 2nd half on the 20th century
They were Bob Robertson , who did press configurated computer odds at the races under the name of Mr Magic
The other was Sturts superstar footballer Paul Mr Magic Bagshaw

Congratulations to Paul Bagshaw for being inducted into the Australian Football Hall Of Fame
360 SANFL games [1964-1980]
One of the very best footballers Ive had the pleasure of watching
The title Mr Magic , is very deserved

When I watched him as a kid, it was like the world was in a slo-mo highlight reel.

They talk about time and space. He didn't need space, but seemed to have plenty of time.

I still recall 2 things he did at Woodville one day.

The first was run backwards with the ball going over his head and he marked the ball behind his back.

The other was when he had the ball with about 3 Woodville blokes bearing down on him from the front. So he put the ball behind his back and handpassed it to a Sturt teammate going past. Was to quick for the ump, as he pinged him for a throw. It wasn't a throw.

Chambo
Were you there the day PB dropped his dacks and kicked a goal ?
Ive heard and read versions of this in a game played at Unley Oval

Scrappy wrote:Chambo
Were you there the day PB dropped his dacks and kicked a goal ?
Ive heard and read versions of this in a game played at Unley Oval

It was at Adelaide Oval in the Qualifying final of 1973. Given that Sturt won the match by 6 points it was a very important kick.

Scrappy wrote:Chambo
Were you there the day PB dropped his dacks and kicked a goal ?
Ive heard and read versions of this in a game played at Unley Oval

I don't think so.
I was 10 at the time and reliant on the old man taking me.
Although I do remember going to a lot of games about that time 73-74.
The Woodville story was 74 I think.

Memory not so good!

1978 Grand Final

ST...5-9...8-15...12-21...14-26
NW..1-5...5-10....9-10...16-15

" We threw that game away we should have been leading by 15 goals at half time."

By
Paul Bagshaw

Norwood put in a quite amazing effort to win after being 29 points behind at 3/4 time
However Sturt played well enough and perhaps should have be about 8-10 goals up at 3/4 time

Former Norwood junior Jim Keays and his band got some free publicity with Norwoods half time score

If ever you wanted to present a story to drive a nail through my heart, this is it!

You're a nasty man Scrappy!  

The Nunan comment was the worst.

Commentator: "Is there a better feeling than winning by a point?"

Nunan: "Yes, winning by half a point!"

I'm sure someone will now this.

I have often wondered why North Adelaide has a big "V" on its jumper.
I have seen that it used to have a white yoke up until about the late 60s.

But 1971 (and maybe a year or two before) it changed to a proper V the same as the Victorian state jumper.

What were the origins of that change and why?

I note that the current jumper has dropped the white tabs across the top of the V, but it is still a distinct "V" rather than a yoke.

Just curious.

Chambo Off To Work We Go wrote:I'm sure someone will now this.

I have often wondered why North Adelaide has a big "V" on its jumper.
I have seen that it used to have a white yoke up until about the late 60s.

But 1971 (and maybe a year or two before) it changed to a proper V the same as the Victorian state jumper.

What were the origins of that change and why?

I note that the current jumper has dropped the white tabs across the top of the V, but it is still a distinct "V" rather than a yoke.

Just curious.

Traditionally North always had a V not a yoke, but the V was normally up higher. I have never seen North with a yoke.

In May, 1970 new North coach, Mike Patterson, a Victorian, changed the Guernsey to the big "V".

I have always thought that it was a very impressive and perhaps more intimidating Guernsey than the higher V. It is personal taste but I have always thought that Port and North have the most impressive, intimidating guernseys. Shame North don't play that way. I could never understand why South Melbourne/Sydney wore the white with red V Guernsey. To me it is insipid in comparison to the red background.

I nearly gave North up when they changed to the Candy Stripes.

Many coaches change a Guernsey, Kerley did it at every club he was associated with at some stage, Killigrew changed Norwood to the Melbourne Guernsey, Fos Williams changed Port back to the Prison bars and even Sturt has had subtle changes to their Guernsey in more recent years and of course didn't always have the monogrammed Guernsey.

rig, what was Souths' jumper like before King Kerley took over as coach ?

robranisgod wrote:

Chambo Off To Work We Go wrote:I'm sure someone will now this.

I have often wondered why North Adelaide has a big "V" on its jumper.
I have seen that it used to have a white yoke up until about the late 60s.

But 1971 (and maybe a year or two before) it changed to a proper V the same as the Victorian state jumper.

What were the origins of that change and why?

I note that the current jumper has dropped the white tabs across the top of the V, but it is still a distinct "V" rather than a yoke.

Just curious.

Traditionally North always had a V not a yoke, but the V was normally up higher. I have never seen North with a yoke.

In May, 1970 new North coach, Mike Patterson, a Victorian, changed the Guernsey to  the big "V".

I have always thought that it was a very impressive and perhaps more intimidating Guernsey than the higher V. It is personal taste but I have always thought that Port and North have the most impressive, intimidating guernseys. Shame North don't play that way. I could never understand why South Melbourne/Sydney wore the white with red V Guernsey. To me it is insipid in comparison to the red background.

I nearly gave North up when they changed to the Candy Stripes.

Many coaches change a Guernsey, Kerley did it at every club he was associated with at some stage, Killigrew changed Norwood to the Melbourne Guernsey, Fos Williams changed Port back to the Prison bars and even Sturt has had subtle changes to their Guernsey in more recent years and of course didn't always have the monogrammed Guernsey.

Thanks RIG,
Sorry yes the V went up to the shoulder and not a yoke as such. Some of them were broader than others.
Interesting that Patterson went for a V.

I prefer the old Sturt monogram than the new taller one.
They use the old one on some of the merchandise.

bayman wrote:rig, what was Souths' jumper like before King Kerley took over as coach ?

They had a navy blue Guernsey with a small SA insignia on the breast, similar in size I guess to St Kilda's shield on their Guernsey.

I might be out by a year or so, but I think that they wore that Guernsey from 1960-63. Prior to that they wore the Geelong Guernsey for about 3 years and before that the small insignia for a number of years.

In their 1938, though they wore the big SA.