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Post by Feathers Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:58 pm

People have a big belly ache about the Eagles recruiting heavily, but we have missed out on a lot of home grown talent eg Scott McMahon Tim and Byron Sumner, Malcolm Karpany, Cam Sutcliffe, Broadbent, Jacobs and now possibly Riley Knight.
I can't prove the Eagles are under the salary cap just as other posters can't prove they are over the salary cap. Let's leave it up to the SANFL.
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Post by Flag No.10 Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:24 pm

bayman wrote:

EAGLES have recruited players to REPLACE those leaving  (for whatever reason) this would leave the money more or less equal from season 2019


They've lost 3 players so far, and recruited 8.
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Post by Flag No.10 Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:31 pm

Feathers wrote:
Flag No.10 wrote:There's no sour grapes or any other issues, I just think it's extremely hard to believe that your club can recruit this heavily and stay under the cap. Is that such an unreasonable view to hold?

Yes.

So you expect followers of other clubs to sit back, watch the Premier lose 3 players and recruit 8 and not question it?
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Post by Lee Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:44 pm

Careful, there are some sensitive souls at the Eagles on here.

Questioning how to fit 5 quality players into half a salary cap will invite retribution.
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Post by spell_check Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:17 pm

bayman wrote:these threads are supposed to 'ALL THINGS' regarding the respective clubs, all i've read recently is trolling & whingeing....if ANY club breaks the salary cap deliberately they will eventually be caught

I am obviously a neutral fan & i know Glenelg have spoken to 4 players that signed with other clubs for whatever their reasons were, that's life.....now lets put this slanging match between predominately West &  Eagles supporters to bed & PLEASE READ THIS PROPERLY

EAGLES have lost several players   & will likely lose more to the draft.......that FREES UP MONEY/CONTRACTS  & the NEED to replace them

EAGLES have recruited players to REPLACE those leaving  (for whatever reason) this would leave the money more or less equal from season 2019

YES I KNOW THE CAP IS DIFFERENT TO PREVIOUS YEARS & THERE WAS NO PAYMENTS LAST YEAR

BUT THE FACT REMAINS IF PLAYERS LEAVE, THOSE PLAYERS HAVE TO BE REPLACED  

I'VE RAMBLED ON BUT I THINK THE POINT HAS BEEN MADE

Word perfect.  The club is being proactive...looking historically, after 1994, it was acknowledged (can't remember by who) in the "Best of Both Worlds" book that the club didn't do enough to replace players who were lost to the AFL/retirement whatever after 1993 and 1994.  Hence the club fell to 8th in 1995.  I'm certain the club knows it will in all likelihood be reamed by the draft this time around.
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Post by Lee Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:54 am

There is no problem with replacing players and well done to the Eagles if they're able to do that.

This is a chat site and it's more than reasonable for fans to speculate how any club can fit several high profile recruits in a salary cap reduced by nearly 50%.

I'm sure the Eagles manage this within the rules, as do all clubs, but discussion about how it's possible is apt.
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Post by mickyj Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:04 pm

Lee wrote:There is no problem with replacing players and well done to the Eagles if they're able to do that.

This is a chat site and it's more than reasonable for fans to speculate how any club can fit several high profile recruits in a salary cap reduced by nearly 50%.

I'm sure the Eagles manage this within the rules, as do all clubs, but discussion about how it's possible is apt.

Lucky I didn’t mention the latest player to resign then Smile
Sorry but so many west fans almost having heart attacks online isn’t good for them 😊
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Post by blacky Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:19 pm

My heart fine mate pity you can't take a bit of banter
Person go fishing and you come in bait and all
Have a beer and relax 🍺
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Post by mickyj Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:31 pm

blacky wrote:My heart fine mate pity you can't take a bit of banter
Person go fishing and you come in bait and all
Have a beer and relax 🍺

It could be said your attacking the disabled with that comment .
I could write a novel over partly disabled and state and federal government agencies arguing with the Feds decision 😂

Just for the record I don’t drink booze of any type gave up cigarettes 26 years ago
Pity the old body doesn’t like it but it loves me losing 16 kilos in three months .
If you’d seen me Monday I’m told the gout medicine well anti inflammatory drug I was put on made me look like a white Walker 😂

But I’m good if I actually posted what people tell me you may have a heat attack 😂
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Post by Chambo Off To Work We Go Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:49 pm

This all seems to have gotten way off the points at hand.

I have no idea what your health status has to do with the Eagles prospects, MJ.

But as an impartial observer to the West fans v Eagles fans tennis match being played, from my point of view it does seem reasonable to discuss how any club is fairing with the massive reduction in the cap. It must change the way they go about recruiting.

Some of the comments in jest in this thread, may have diminished the focus on this, but it is a relevant issue for everyone.

And as I said in a previous post, how has this cap reduction swung further against the 8 clubs compared to the 2 AFL clubs?

I agree with Lee, a points system would be worth considering now with so many variables occurring in the recruiting / player replacement mix.

The AFL's ever increasing ability to raid the sanfl's stocks whenever the mood takes them is the biggest issue here that unsettles a club's prospects, particularly during the season.

As for the Eagles, from my perspective, they seem to be getting more things right than wrong of late and seem to have a pretty solid list, irrespective of player losses.
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Post by mickyj Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:56 pm

Chambo Off To Work We Go wrote:This all seems to have gotten way off the points at hand.

I have no idea what your health status has to do with the Eagles prospects, MJ.

But as an impartial observer to the West fans v Eagles fans tennis match being played, from my point of view it does seem reasonable to discuss how any club is fairing with the massive reduction in the cap. It must change the way they go about recruiting.

Some of the comments in jest in this thread, may have diminished the focus on this, but it is a relevant issue for everyone.

And as I said in  a previous post, how has this cap reduction swung further against the 8 clubs compared to the 2 AFL clubs?

I agree with Lee, a points system would be worth considering now with so many variables occurring in the recruiting / player replacement mix.

The AFL's ever increasing ability to raid the sanfl's stocks whenever the mood takes them is the biggest issue here that unsettles a club's prospects, particularly during the season.

As for the Eagles, from my perspective, they seem to be getting more things right than wrong of late and seem to have a pretty solid list, irrespective of player losses.

What I said about my health while in jest to blacky is the truth . He can drink all the beer (I am however partly disabled fully assessed by Centrelink) if you offered me a cup of decent tea I’d take you up .

I have no idea how the Eagles do it but they do it by the book . And it might help the club president is an accountant .
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Post by Big Phil Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:14 pm

Eagles announced Riley Knight's signature today,

Expecting a big announcement on another Knight to Oval Avenue soon.
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Post by Flag No.10 Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:06 pm

Big Phil wrote:Eagles announced Riley Knight's signature today,


Sure, why not.
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Post by blacky Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:25 pm

Fill sorry for the guys that played this year
None of them will get a game😂😂
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Post by Lee Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:25 am

Big Phil wrote:Eagles announced Riley Knight's signature today,

Expecting a big announcement on another Knight to Oval Avenue soon.

He's playing for the love of the game.

As are all the other ex-AFL players.
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Post by mickyj Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:01 am

Lee wrote:
Big Phil wrote:Eagles announced Riley Knight's signature today,

Expecting a big announcement on another Knight to Oval Avenue soon.

He's playing for the love of the game.

As are all the other ex-AFL players.

Lucky the player who resigned before Knight signed wasn’t mentioned on here
You guys would be having fits Smile
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Post by Lee Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:12 am

Resigned or re-signed?
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Post by mickyj Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:41 am

Lee wrote:Resigned or re-signed?

Re - signed
Sorry I did complete year 12 English back in the 70s

And he is a great midfielder playing great footy up in the NT great VFL player and was great last year as an Eagle
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Post by Lee Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:44 am

Tsitas.
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Post by mickyj Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:45 am

Lee wrote:Tsitas.

Yep was never posted on here for some reason
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Post by Lachlan2 Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:48 pm

Amazing the Eagles have signed another high class recruit in Knight and then you add Tsitas. I would like to see the contracts for these new recruits.
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Post by mickyj Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:13 pm

Lachlan2 wrote:Amazing the Eagles have signed another high class recruit in Knight and then you add Tsitas. I would like to see the contracts for these new recruits.

You forget Knight was an Eagle before he went into the AFL.
Eagles don’t have a good record bringing them home .

I’d love to see the difference in the Menzel’s contract at Elizabeth and at oval ave if my contacts are right they are playing for less money
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Post by Lachlan2 Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:22 pm

i’m fully aware Knight Is an Eagles junior, I would still like to see all of their contracts.
Things just don’t seem to add up.
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Post by mickyj Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:32 pm

Lachlan2 wrote:i’m fully aware Knight Is an Eagles junior, I would still like to see all of their contracts.
Things just don’t seem to add up.

Do you think the SANFL wouldn’t be aware of everything ?
Perhaps your chasing things that don’t exist.
Let’s not forget 2020 the salary cap was zero and in 2021 it’s $210’000.
Do you wish to check on Norwood for signing an ex AFL player returning home ?
Just wondering do you only worry about one team getting recruits ?
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Post by Flag No.10 Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:56 pm

Norwood haven't signed 9 of them. Yet.
When's Dustin Martin arriving?
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