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Post by Big Phil Sat Dec 26, 2020 2:31 pm

Lee wrote:Not sure that's correct.

About West chasing them originally, I mean.

I can assure you it is.

Might have only been an initial enquiry, but there was some form of interest.
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Post by Lachlan2 Sat Dec 26, 2020 2:45 pm

Big Phil.

I can assure there was no enquiry by the bloods at all.
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Post by goddy11 Sat Dec 26, 2020 2:53 pm

Names?
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Post by Big Phil Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:26 pm

Lachlan2 wrote:Big Phil.

I can assure there was no enquiry by the bloods at all.

Okay, not what I was told by someone who coached them (DM + TM) but that's okay.
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Post by Big Phil Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:27 pm

goddy11 wrote:Names?
Your brotherly recruits.
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Post by mickyj Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:26 pm

Big Phil wrote:
goddy11 wrote:Names?
Your brotherly recruits.

I was thinking that
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Post by goddy11 Sun Jan 03, 2021 2:29 pm

Off the SANFL website , this is a fair few recruits. Maybe money is not an issue

WEST ADELAIDE
Coming
Jonathan Beech (returned/Queensland), Kieran Lovell (Hawthorn), Tom Murphy (North Melbourne) Luke Redfern (Coolamon Rovers), Mitch Maguire (Canberra Demons), Jesse Johnson (Coburg), Charlie Allan (Sturt), Lucas Meline (Canberra Demons), Frane Babic (Sydney Swans Academy), Josh Gore (Gold Coast Suns Academy), Levi Proude (Barmera-Monash), Ronald Fejo (Wanderers)

Going
Riley Thilthorpe (Adelaide), Dallas Willsmore (country Victoria), Jack Agostino (Renmark), William Mead (Rostrevor OC), Gibson Turner, Andre Parrella, Stuart Taverner
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Post by bayman Sun Jan 03, 2021 2:54 pm

I think you’ll find Brett Turner is an out for West too
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Post by goddy11 Sun Jan 03, 2021 3:09 pm

bayman wrote:I think you’ll find Brett Turner is an out for West too
Brett Turner may just be too much like some of the new players coming in and not a loss.

I was just having a laugh after some of Lee's comments about the Eagles recruiting. I think there are at least 12 recruits there for West. But good on them.

Lee wrote:There's no anger, just surprise at how sensitive a few Eagles' fans are at an obvious topic of discussion.

There's no comparison with West. We're a long way off right now and it will take time, so we're at opposite ends of the spectrum.

To argue that it's about 10 out and 9 in, rather than small money out and big money in is very simplistic and disingenuous.

Play on.

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Post by Lee Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:05 pm

Would you seriously like to line up the cost of the ins and outs at each club?

Most of West's recruits, bar one, are country or Tasmanian league players.

One AFL player in, one out (Willsmore).

Six of the rest wouldn't equal one of the Menzels payments.

And it just supports my original argument that its not numbers, but payments that count.
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Post by mickyj Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:43 pm

Lee wrote:Would you seriously like to line up the cost of the ins and outs at each club?

Most of West's recruits, bar one, are country or Tasmanian league players.

One AFL player in, one out (Willsmore).

Six of the rest wouldn't equal one of the Menzels payments.

And it just supports my original argument that its not numbers, but payments that count.

Maybe check your sources on the so called Menzels payment my sources say less money than what they earned at Centrals . But hey
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Post by Feathers Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:18 am

Lee wrote:Would you seriously like to line up the cost of the ins and outs at each club?

Most of West's recruits, bar one, are country or Tasmanian league players.

One AFL player in, one out (Willsmore).

Six of the rest wouldn't equal one of the Menzels payments.

And it just supports my original argument that its not numbers, but payments that count.

You wouldn't bloody know!!!
Show actual proof, what support do you have?
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Post by Lee Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:58 am

A couple of things:

1.  You wouldn't know either, but the vast majority of SANFL followers would agree that recruits from  the Riverina League wouldn't be paid as much as the Menzels.

2.  I have no wish to debate someone as aggressive as you usually are, but happy to if we engage reasonably.
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Post by mickyj Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:46 pm

Lee wrote:A couple of things:

1.  You wouldn't know either, but the vast majority of SANFL followers would agree that recruits from  the Riverina League wouldn't be paid as much as the Menzels.

2.  I have no wish to debate someone as aggressive as you usually are, but happy to if we engage reasonably.

Lee I gather your comment isn’t to me .
I had zero idea about the Menzel brothers until someone closer to the Eagles told me exactly what happened to bring them to the eagles .
I have no idea what they are being paid except I’ve been told less than they got at Centrals
How they got to the Eagles was very interesting
I can’t print exactly what I’ve been told but let’s just say the Eagles didn’t chase them .
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Post by Lee Mon Jan 04, 2021 4:41 pm

No, wasn't you Micky.
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Post by mickyj Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:39 pm

Lee wrote:No, wasn't you Micky.

Good

Sometimes I can’t tell when I have pissed people off .
Take care Lee
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Post by Feathers Tue Jan 05, 2021 8:23 am

Lee wrote:A couple of things:

1.  You wouldn't know either, but the vast majority of SANFL followers would agree that recruits from  the Riverina League wouldn't be paid as much as the Menzels.

2.  I have no wish to debate someone as aggressive as you usually are, but happy to if we engage reasonably.

Your statement "You wouldn't know either" infers you don't know as well. I don't know why you keep on harping about it. Only the player/players along with club administrators would know. Your assumptions and theories might be applicable in some cases but if you don't know the overall situation your statements and inferences are absolute rubbish.
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Post by Feathers Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:32 pm

Lee wrote:A couple of things:

1.  You wouldn't know either, but the vast majority of SANFL followers would agree that recruits from  the Riverina League wouldn't be paid as much as the Menzels.

2.  I have no wish to debate someone as aggressive as you usually are, but happy to if we engage reasonably.

You seem to be very selective in what you choose to compare. A better comparison would be J. Beech, K Lovell and T. Murphy to the Menzel brothers plus I'll chuck in Riley Knight.
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Post by Ty Segall Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:51 pm

Feathers wrote:
Lee wrote:A couple of things:

1.  You wouldn't know either, but the vast majority of SANFL followers would agree that recruits from  the Riverina League wouldn't be paid as much as the Menzels.

2.  I have no wish to debate someone as aggressive as you usually are, but happy to if we engage reasonably.

You seem to be very selective in what you choose to compare. A better comparison would be J. Beech, K Lovell and T. Murphy to the Menzel brothers plus I'll chuck in Riley Knight.

Its not worth comparing anyway..we have lost practically half of our GF team and west have lost nothing
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Post by Flag No.10 Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:52 pm

Feathers wrote: Only the player/players along with club administrators would know. Your assumptions and theories might be applicable in some cases but if you don't know the overall situation your statements and inferences are absolute rubbish.

Using your logic you wouldn't know, in which case you can't know whether Lee's statements are rubbish or not.

Anyway, no one has claimed to have proof of anything. It's a footy forum, people express opinions on it.
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Post by mickyj Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:09 pm

Flag No.10 wrote:
Feathers wrote: Only the player/players along with club administrators would know. Your assumptions and theories might be applicable in some cases but if you don't know the overall situation your statements and inferences are absolute rubbish.

Using your logic you wouldn't know, in which case you can't know whether Lee's statements are rubbish or not.

Anyway, no one has claimed to have proof of anything. It's a footy forum, people express opinions on it.

Just to change the topic back to West Adelaide
You mentioned footy forum and people’s opinions
On another Forum a former West player Turner I think his name is left West and joins the bays next year .
Talk on the other forum he was not offered enough money
Any idea if that’s true guys
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Post by Flag No.10 Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:40 pm

I believe he wasn't offered enough money for his liking, yes. He has had an inflated opinion of his value for some time. I'm tipping that sometime 12-24 months from now the Bays might question whether he was worth the transfer fee.
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Post by mickyj Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:44 pm

Flag No.10 wrote:I believe he wasn't offered enough money for his liking, yes. He has had an inflated opinion of his value for some time. I'm tipping that sometime 12-24 months from now the Bays might question whether he was worth the transfer fee.

Fair enough it happens at every club
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Post by bayman Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:19 pm

Flag No.10 wrote:I believe he wasn't offered enough money for his liking, yes. He has had an inflated opinion of his value for some time. I'm tipping that sometime 12-24 months from now the Bays might question whether he was worth the transfer fee.

or he could be a premiership player & worth every cent Wink
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Post by Lee Tue Jan 05, 2021 11:13 pm

Well, I can confidently confirm Flag No 10s statements about Brett Turner.

I wish him well. He's a good lad and his best football is also good, when it's seen.

I do know, without fear of being contradicted by Feathers, that Brett's judgement of his correct pay scale is far in excess of what all others would judge it to be.

Hence his decision to move.

I support the Club in its reasonable offer to him.
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