Eagles all things 2021

blueandwhite wrote:Lonergan re- signs with Eagles..

I’m quoting blue and white he’s not an eagles fan
He’s posted about Lonergan
Funny a non eagles fan posts this and no Westies fans scream salary cap
Why are westies fans not complaining about this one is it because no eagles fans posted it

I think this highlights my point of west fans going off when eagles fans post

Question....if a club pays a clearance fee to another club, does that money come out of the Salary cap?

Lee wrote:There are posters on here who have a far more detailed knowledge of the salary cap and player contracts than you, feathers, so i suggest you don't label others as ignorant.

And perhaps park the anger and enjoy reasonable
discussion of a valid topic

By the way, how can you state that there are posters on this forum that have far more knowledge of the salary cap than me, you don't know what I know. You just use throw away lines to put people down.

mickyj wrote:

blueandwhite wrote:Lonergan re- signs with Eagles..

I’m quoting blue and white he’s not an eagles fan
He’s posted about Lonergan
Funny a non eagles fan posts this and no Westies fans scream salary cap
Why are westies fans not complaining about this one is it because no eagles fans posted it

I think this highlights my point of west fans going off when eagles fans post

Please dont paint me as impartial in this!!
I initially thought that WWT had demerged and were recruiting for 2 teams..!!

Lee wrote:There are no sour grapes involved.

West supporters should be realistic enough to know we're at the start of a rebuild which will take more than a year, so no expectations of success in 2021 from me, so where the Eagles finish isb't a big deal.

It's a discussion.

PS: thank you, goddy11and I agree about the 22.

21 maybe 22 (been in for a whole season) says it all!!!!!

blueandwhite wrote:Question....if a club pays a clearance fee to another club, does that money come out of the Salary cap?

No, B & W.

It did for a few recent years, but only for two clubs.

Yes, you read that correctly.

blueandwhite wrote:

mickyj wrote:

blueandwhite wrote:Lonergan re- signs with Eagles..

I’m quoting blue and white he’s not an eagles fan
He’s posted about Lonergan
Funny a non eagles fan posts this and no Westies fans scream salary cap
Why are westies fans not complaining about this one is it because no eagles fans posted it

I think this highlights my point of west fans going off when eagles fans post

Please dont paint me as impartial in this!!
I initially thought that WWT had demerged and were recruiting for 2 teams..!!

I only quoted your post because no west Adelaide fans went off at your post .
Personally I couldn’t give a damn what you think or believe . It’s none of my business.

mickyj wrote:

blueandwhite wrote:

mickyj wrote:

blueandwhite wrote:Lonergan re- signs with Eagles..

I’m quoting blue and white he’s not an eagles fan
He’s posted about Lonergan
Funny a non eagles fan posts this and no Westies fans scream salary cap
Why are westies fans not complaining about this one is it because no eagles fans posted it

I think this highlights my point of west fans going off when eagles fans post

Please dont paint me as impartial in this!!
I initially thought that WWT had demerged and were recruiting for 2 teams..!!

I only quoted your post because no west Adelaide fans went off at your post .
Personally I couldn’t give a damn what you think or believe . It’s none of my business.

Micky, wishing you and your family a happy Xmas. You are starting to lose context and as an idea you might want a break from this thread. You dont need to reply to each poster. They are just opinions and you are free to comment on other clubs. Serious or in jest.
I for one am looking forward to next season. Go Eagles.

goddy11 wrote:

mickyj wrote:

blueandwhite wrote:

mickyj wrote:

blueandwhite wrote:Lonergan re- signs with Eagles..

I’m quoting blue and white he’s not an eagles fan
He’s posted about Lonergan
Funny a non eagles fan posts this and no Westies fans scream salary cap
Why are westies fans not complaining about this one is it because no eagles fans posted it

I think this highlights my point of west fans going off when eagles fans post

Please dont paint me as impartial in this!!
I initially thought that WWT had demerged and were recruiting for 2 teams..!!

I only quoted your post because no west Adelaide fans went off at your post .
Personally I couldn’t give a damn what you think or believe . It’s none of my business.

Micky, wishing you and your family a happy Xmas.  You are starting to lose context and as an idea you might want a break from this thread. You dont need to reply to each poster. They are just opinions and you are free to comment on other clubs. Serious or in jest.
I for one am looking forward to next season. Go Eagles.

Fair enough I am gone from here for awhile  sorry I have totally embarrassed eagles fans
When I return I’ll still only comment on posts no adding teams ect

My apologies, I should have pm you privately.

goddy11 wrote:My apologies, I should have pm you privately.

No I’m gone it matters not

No dramas, micky, we know you're just a passionate Eagles' fan.

Geez, a few feathers ruffled in this thread makes for interesting reading. Eagles fans getting upset for Cap questioning should try supporting Norwood for the last decade. Pretty sure Centrals copped it when they were on top, surprised the Bays and North weren't questioned as it generally accompanies success. Best way to handle it is to just sit back and keep watching your team deliver what they have been.

Yes indeed.

But to Micky, we know you are a fervent Eagles supporter and we applaud that 100%. Lord knows the sanfl could do with a lot more passionate footy people like you.

However, I would not be taking this debate either personally or against the Eagles per se. The debate would be the same if it were Norwood, Sturt, Glenelg or even God forbid, West Adelaide.

I have not taken it to be West even throwing daggers at WWT. It is just that there are obviously a few more active West subscribers to this forum than others.

I think the questions are valid that have been raised. And given the high profile of the announcements, there are very likely, answers. We just don't know them yet.

As for posting team lists or announcements, I don't know why you have declined to post either. But I would urge you to reconsider, as I cannot see any problem in doing so, should you wish.

As that fantastic line in the "Godfather" came into our world in 1972, "it's not personal it's just business".

.....maybe that is hard to accept when you have the head of your prize racehorse lying at the end of your bed!

Scrunch wrote:Geez, a few feathers ruffled in this thread makes for interesting reading. Eagles fans getting upset for Cap questioning should try supporting Norwood for the last decade.

And those questioning Norwood were well justified Scrunch.

Not casting any aspersions at any club, I’ll just say there is never any cheating unless you get CAUGHT

blueandwhite wrote:

mickyj wrote:

blueandwhite wrote:Lonergan re- signs with Eagles..

I’m quoting blue and white he’s not an eagles fan
He’s posted about Lonergan
Funny a non eagles fan posts this and no Westies fans scream salary cap
Why are westies fans not complaining about this one is it because no eagles fans posted it

I think this highlights my point of west fans going off when eagles fans post

Please dont paint me as impartial in this!!
I initially thought that WWT had demerged and were recruiting for 2 teams..!!

Hehe , 2 and a quarter teams even! I believe the team we beat in the Prelim was a quarter filled with ex-Eagles and a coach!

Chambo Off To Work We Go wrote:Yes indeed.

But to Micky, we know you are a fervent Eagles supporter and we applaud that 100%. Lord knows the sanfl could do with a lot more passionate footy people like you.

However, I would not be taking this debate either personally or against the Eagles per se. The debate would be the same if it were Norwood, Sturt, Glenelg or even God forbid, West Adelaide.

I have not taken it to be West even throwing daggers at WWT. It is just that there are obviously a few more active West subscribers to this forum than others.

I think the questions are valid that have been raised. And given the high profile of the announcements, there are very likely, answers. We just don't know them yet.

As for posting team lists or announcements, I don't know why you have declined to post either. But I would urge you to reconsider, as I cannot see any problem in doing so, should you wish.

As that fantastic line in the "Godfather" came into our world in 1972, "it's not personal it's just business".

.....maybe that is hard to accept when you have the head of your prize racehorse lying at the end of your bed!

I hope it’s ok to quote you seeing the last person I quoted got upset
Goddy11 told me to step back from posting
So I have .
I’ll post again one day in the future

Aerie wrote:

blueandwhite wrote:

mickyj wrote:

blueandwhite wrote:Lonergan re- signs with Eagles..

I’m quoting blue and white he’s not an eagles fan
He’s posted about Lonergan
Funny a non eagles fan posts this and no Westies fans scream salary cap
Why are westies fans not complaining about this one is it because no eagles fans posted it

I think this highlights my point of west fans going off when eagles fans post

Please dont paint me as impartial in this!!
I initially thought that WWT had demerged and were recruiting for 2 teams..!!

Hehe   , 2 and a quarter teams even! I believe the team we beat in the Prelim was a quarter filled with ex-Eagles and a coach!

I was referring to next year..

Yep, boot was on the other foot a few years ago though wasnt it..?

this has been copied and pasted from the sanfl site...so it's fair to say it would be accurate to this point in time


West Adelaide
Coming
Jonathan Beech (returned/Queensland), Kieran Lovell (Hawthorn), Luke Redfern (Coolamon Rovers), Mitch Maguire (Canberra Demons), Jesse Johnson (Coburg), Charlie Allan (Sturt), Lucas Meline (Canberra Demons)



Going
Dallas Willsmore (country Victoria), Jack Agostino (Renmark), William Mead (Rostrevor OC), Gibson Turner


Woodville-West Torrens
Coming
Daniel Menzel (Central District), Troy Menzel (Central District), Kobe Mutch (Essendon), Rhys Mutch (North Melbourne VFL), Clay Cameron (Redland/Gold Coast Suns), Stephen Mills (Redland/Gold Coast Suns), Mitch Hardie (Canberra Demons), Cooper Sharman (Leeton/Oakleigh Chargers)



Going
Nick Hayes (work/Melbourne), Jamie Coff (Central District), Sam Lowson (returning to Melbourne), Will McPherson (work)

ok,
West 7 players coming in & 4 players leaving

Eagles 8 players coming in & 4 players leaving

i'm sorry but it isn't that much difference (one extra in for the Eagles only)

Well firstly, West have also lost our two ruckmen, Parella and Taverner (and will lose our 3rd one, Thilthorpe, tomorrow). So, leaving aside the draft that's 7 in and 6 out.
Eagles have also lost Foote, but have also picked up Knight, and also have to fit Tsitas into the cap next year.
And secondly, some of those West recruits wouldn't be commanding much more than base match payments, about the same as what a couple of those Eagles outs would have got.
Thirdly, we finished last with a poor list that would have very few well paid players in it.

The Eagles 'ins' would be several times more expensive than West's.

West's 2 main recruits were playing in Tasmania and Canberra last year, plus a returning Jono Beech. The others would be lowcpayments. No delisted AFL players or high profile.

while you are correct about Foote i just copy & pasted the updated version from the sanfl site as mentioned, now losing Parella is a bonus, he was no good at Sturt & never improved at West, if he was 5 foot 8 he wouldn't even be in the reserves, to me all these queries are fine to a point but to me the ever consistent whining about looks to me that your already making excuses for next year, there is no doubt that while the team played for Gavin Colville & were in some games throughout the year, however they now have Brad Gotch & those of us like you that have watched sanfl footy over the years will know he is a very very good coach & it might take him a year or so but he'll have a strongly competitive team on the field & this salary cap whingeing will be a thing of the past, as for Thilthorpe yes he's off due to the draft as will players from the Eagles & lots of other clubs over the country, when the dust settles i'm sure that all clubs will have similar ins & outs in the terms of the number of players

without knowing the circumstances i'd suggest perhaps some of these players your not happy about have got jobs through the clubs sponsorships & therefore signed with them, to balance it out i'll admit the Mutch brothers got a better offer that Glenelg couldn't afford to match, that's ok they made a choice & good luck to them

Flag No.10 wrote:Well firstly, West have also lost our two ruckmen, Parella and Taverner (and will lose our 3rd one, Thilthorpe, tomorrow). So, leaving aside the draft that's 7 in and 6 out.
Eagles have also lost Foote, but have also picked up Knight, and also have to fit Tsitas into the cap next year.
And secondly, some of those West recruits wouldn't be commanding much more than base match payments, about the same as what a couple of those Eagles outs would have got.
Thirdly, we finished last with a poor list that would have very few well paid players in it.

Did the "Bloods" pay their players last year?

Flag No.10 wrote:

Scrunch wrote:Geez, a few feathers ruffled in this thread makes for interesting reading. Eagles fans getting upset for Cap questioning should try supporting Norwood for the last decade.

And those questioning Norwood were well justified Scrunch.

Yes and No, questioning any club isn’t unreasonable. Those questioning it probably should ensure their club is or was squeaky clean too else it just reeks of sour grapes