Nick Stevens

Just heard on SEN that he has been found guilty of assaulting his ex partner.

I assume Glenelg will be looking for a new coach.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/former-carlton-star-nick-stevens-guilty-of-assaulting-ex-partner/story-fni0fee2-1227193169130

Nothing in that article that mentions when the court decides what the penalty will be or when he will be told.. my guess is he will appeal the decision and it will drag on for a while yet.

club really gotta look hard at how they do a lot of things from this. did they do all the background checks to find this stuff out before it was in the papers?
is it time to get some of the old names who know a bit about footy and business, back to the club in some role? bays cant keep going like this year in year out, their supporters must be jack of watching them not achieve on field for so long and see admin people go through the place for not that long.

firstblood wrote:Nothing in that article that mentions when the court decides what the penalty will be or when he will be told.. my guess is he will appeal the decision and it will drag on for a while yet.

Pre-sentence hearing set down for March 11. I'm not sure but I guess he can appeal in the meantime.

some innocent people get found guilty, in this case if innocent i feel for him, if guilty then throw the book at him as that behaviour isn't accepted in our society & nor should it be, so now we move forward & whoever is the man to take over i'll support 100% & trust him to take us forward with the squad that was being developed by the previous coach Nick Stevens & yes i say previous coach because even if he got a suspended sentence no club in the world could be seen condoning his crime by letting him keep his job

He doesn't sound like a particularly nice sort of person from what is reported in the article.

MEDIA STATEMENT
GLENELG FOOTBALL CLUB

In the wake of today’s court decision in Victoria, the Glenelg Football Club advises that it has terminated the contract of senior coach Nick Stevens.

As a proud family based community club we wish to make it very clear that we do not condone or tolerate domestic violence in any form.

The Board has appointed Matthew Lokan as its senior coach for the 2015 season effective immediately.

Good call by the club, even if it continues the revolving door nature that is Glenelg's senior coach role.

Well what if he appeals and is found not guilty?
Presumably he's told the club he won't appeal.

Flag No.9 wrote:Well what if he appeals and is found not guilty?
Presumably he's told the club he won't appeal.

when he was found guilty, the club had to sack him no question otherwise they'd be condoning domestic violence, so he'll get sentenced & i'll presume appeal that but he can't appeal a judges decision, i presume with ''new evidence'' he could then go for another trial but then that could be 3 years or more away & the club can't let this go on like ''blue hills'' the club has obviously done the right thing & South dodged the bullet we've been shot down with

http://www.sanfl.com.au/news/sanfl_news/2801/

bayman wrote:

Flag No.9 wrote:Well what if he appeals and is found not guilty?
Presumably he's told the club he won't appeal.

when he was found guilty, the club had to sack him no question otherwise they'd be condoning domestic violence, so he'll get sentenced & i'll presume appeal that but he can't appeal a judges decision, i presume with ''new evidence'' he could then go for another trial but then that could be 3 years or more away & the club can't let this go on like ''blue hills'' the club has obviously done the right thing & South dodged the bullet we've been shot down with

You're right the club has obviously done the right thing, but lets face it, the decision was a no-brainer.

bayman wrote: but he can't appeal a judges decision

Why not?

Flag No.9 wrote:

bayman wrote: but he can't appeal a judges decision

Why not?

Of course he can, that's what an appeal is. He's not going to "appeal" for the guilty verdict to remain and just challenge any sentence, is he?

The club had no choice, but why they needed to hold a meeting I don't know. Surely the statement could have been prepared months ago with the button pressed to release it upon the guilty verdict, or deleted upon a not guilty verdict.

So Booney, what do you think the Bays should do if Stevens is found not guilty on appeal?

Questions being asked up the line of the club about aspects of the original appointment of Stevens and circumstances around it. This may get uncomfortable for some at the GFC.

Flag No.9 wrote:So Booney, what do you think the Bays should do if Stevens is found not guilty on appeal?

Firstly, they can't reinstate him. The appeal could, in all reality, take months even years. So the (right) decision made will stand.

The only option they had upon a guilty verdict was to dismiss him. Upon a not-guilty verdict they could have backed him and left him in his role.

All in all, Stevens is not the victim here and any discussion about his coaching role should really pale into insignificance compared to the real victim of this all too common event(s).

Domestic violence is, in the main, not viewed as abhorrently by society as it should be.

Booney wrote:Domestic violence is, in the main, not viewed as abhorrently by society as it should be.

I think it is, I think it's more just that we are increasingly hearing more and more horrific stories these days, that it's difficult to place one above another. Really hope this provides another opportunity to reinforce just how often people are subject to domestic abuse.

To announce Lokan as the coach straight away, I think Glenelg has thought the issue through prior to the guilty verdict.

Their statement came pretty quickly.

Booney wrote:

Flag No.9 wrote:

bayman wrote: but he can't appeal a judges decision

Why not?

Of course he can, that's what an appeal is. He's not going to "appeal" for the guilty verdict to remain and just challenge any sentence, is he?

The club had no choice, but why they needed to hold a meeting I don't know. Surely the statement could have been prepared months ago with the button pressed to release it upon the guilty verdict, or deleted upon a not guilty verdict.

I imagine he will appeal the conviction and unless the sentence is very lenient, the sentence as well.

I presume that the Club's constitution requires that a meeting of the board to be held to sack the coach. I can't imagine that power is dependent on the whim of one person within the club structure and legally they needed to be sure they got it right. It would look worse if they fired off a statement before meeting their legal requirements and then got embroiled in an unlawful dismissal suit. Even though it was the right decision and had to be done, the way the process is handled can be critical.

Booney wrote:

Flag No.9 wrote:

bayman wrote: but he can't appeal a judges decision

Why not?

Of course he can, that's what an appeal is. He's not going to "appeal" for the guilty verdict to remain and just challenge any sentence, is he?

The club had no choice, but why they needed to hold a meeting I don't know. Surely the statement could have been prepared months ago with the button pressed to release it upon the guilty verdict, or deleted upon a not guilty verdict.

sorry guys i didn't word it correctly because i'm not Perry Mason, but i knew what i meant

eartotheground wrote:Questions being asked up the line of the club about aspects of the original appointment of Stevens and circumstances around it. This may get uncomfortable for some at the GFC.

I'll call that bluff, simply not true.

UncleHuey wrote:

Booney wrote:

Flag No.9 wrote:

bayman wrote: but he can't appeal a judges decision

Why not?

Of course he can, that's what an appeal is. He's not going to "appeal" for the guilty verdict to remain and just challenge any sentence, is he?

The club had no choice, but why they needed to hold a meeting I don't know. Surely the statement could have been prepared months ago with the button pressed to release it upon the guilty verdict, or deleted upon a not guilty verdict.

I imagine he will appeal the conviction and unless the sentence is very lenient, the sentence as well.

I presume that the Club's constitution requires that a meeting of the board to be held to sack the coach. I can't imagine that power is dependent on the whim of one person within the club structure and legally they needed to be sure they got it right. It would look worse if they fired off a statement before meeting their legal requirements and then got embroiled in an unlawful dismissal suit. Even though it was the right decision and had to be done, the way the process is handled can be critical.

Yes.

I'd be highly surprised if the Board hadn't taken legal advice, or at least looked closely at his contract, well before now.

There would be a dismissal clause for a generic type of 'discredit to the club' or even 'found guilty of an offence'.

And I think that is all any club can concern itself with.
He has been found guilty therefore they act.
You can't second guess what ifs on possible appeals.