Port in SANFL 2014

Booney wrote:It's not so much a "proper" comp but, in the main, all players playing under the same system. Playing structures etc.

Port should have given Adelaide half of our zones to recruit reserves/top up players from and both sides had U18's, reserves and league in the SANFL.

How f**** easy was that?

You still need a license to play in 2015 which as it stands today, you do not have. Port wouldn't want to pull any swifty's because I believe the 8 other league clubs are watching them like a Hawk.

Hey, I dont for one minute under rate the stupidity of the 8 SANFL clubs and the chances that they may do that.

Then again, if you think the SANFL commission cant bully the clubs into doing exactly what they are told again.....

I wouldn't dispute that either

Agreed.

AND SO IT SHOULD BE REMOVED

Booney wrote:

Then again, if you think the SANFL commission cant bully the clubs into doing exactly what they are told again.....

on the money there Mr Booney & i reckon it has already happened in the recent past   

wolves wrote:AND SO IT SHOULD BE REMOVED

What should be removed?

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I agree they are not all ready to play sanfl league upon drafting, but in this vexed model now thrust upon us, Port just can't have its cake and eat it too.
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This agreement was nothing but Port having its cake and eating it too!!

They wanted the best of both worlds - Have all their Power AFL players plus keep the Magpies SANFL team and the zones to create a super strong SANFL team. If the intent was to have their AFL listed players play together in the best league possible then all of them must play SANFL league if available, otherwise there is no reason to have them play at Port.
They are, and always have been, concerned about Pt Adelaide first, and everything else is a distant also-ran.

This whole farce could have been resolved by the SANFL for season 2014 by having the Port Magpies as the Power's reserves only with no Magpie reserves as they will have, and as long as they have that setup they will exploit it to there own advantage.

Their Reserves side is an Academy side of Under 23 players, I think.

The main thing will be that any listed player must play before any other top-up player is selected.

I agree totally with R&B there listed players must play before there top up players it's a given in my book

lachlan wrote:I agree totally with R&B there listed players must play before there top up players it's a given in my book

Hang on, why? If they are all contracted to the Port Adelaide Football Club can we not play them where we like?

Let me know come round 1, I'll get hold of Buddha and you can help him with the selection, positional placement and interchange rotations, if you like?

The idea wasn't to form some super-team, it was to keep all your players together. If your club deems that some of them aren't ready for the rigours of SANFL senior footy then they shouldn't have gone with this new model.

Correct, it wasn't to form a super team, it was to have all players playing one game style, one structure. This will be from AFL level, to SANFL level, to SANFL reserves level. Where any individual is selected to play is of our concern only.

BOONEY
You can say what you like but my opinion still stands that your AFL Listed players not selected in your AFL team must be selected for your SANFL SIDE first

100% entitled to an opinion, as everyone is. How accurate those opinions are is open to debate.

Booney wrote:Correct, it wasn't to form a super team, it was to have all players playing one game style, one structure. This will be from AFL level, to SANFL level, to SANFL reserves level. Where any individual is selected to play is of our concern only.

It was to have all AFL players playing the one style. It wasn't to allow a "best of" of your AFL and SANFL players.

I am on Booney's side regarding this, while the set up is as it is, they can do as they like-Don't blame Port blame the SANFL for this- They have a league side and a B grade in the SANFL and as I have said before they can exploit it all they can for season 2014.

The SANFL could have stopped this but they chose not to.

Well actually the clubs could have stopped this but chose not to.
The sanfl in its current guise, seem happy to appease the afl.

And it is just too cute (after Port essentially got what they wanted) after all the posturing and threats, to say they won't play all afl drafted players in the sanfl league team. This is what is was about - period!

If they now say the want and can play them wherever they like, then irrespective who is right and who is wrong on what they can and can't do, Booney's argument justifying it will be overwhelmingly in the minority.

You can call an apple and orange and vice versa - but it doesn't make it so.

The more this cr@p goes on, the more I think they should just play in a Power strip. Come clean about it and get on with the true agenda instead of disguising it as this community commitment rubbish.

Huh?

"Come clean about it" - Clearly the club has wanted all AFL listed players under their own control in all training and games, they now have that. Nothing to "come clean" about.

The club also acknowledges the importance of the SANFL arm, the contact with the community and the development path the club offers from grassroots amateur clubs in the zones that have been ours for, well, ever. At the member information evening KT went to great lengths to emphasise that.

Well said Booney.
By comparison, where is the Crows commitment to community?
Not to mention development...
The 19th man...from wherever?
Top up players...from wherever?
Our (Port Adelaide) "true agenda" is we exist to win Premierships.
We are Port Adelaide.

At the start of this year a friend of mine's child qualified to be in the SANFL U/15 Development Squad, they were told that they live in the Port Adelaide area and would be contacted by the PAFC, instead they were phoned by the North Adelaide FC and told that Port were not participating in the Junior Development program because they did not think they would have a juniors team in coming seasons and wanted the welfare of these kids to be respected and that they might play where they would be moved to, hence this move was planned some while ago, it was not all just decided recently.

Glen Garbils wrote:Well said Booney.
By comparison, where is the Crows commitment to community?
Not to mention development...
The 19th man...from wherever?
Top up players...from wherever?
Our (Port Adelaide) "true agenda" is we exist to win Premierships.
We are Port Adelaide.

The whole point of the AFL teams entering the SANFL was to play all their players in a 'Reserves' team together. The Crows have kept to their word by getting top up players from the existing clubs, as they always said they would.

It's a bit rich to be making it a virtue if Port stack their team with Magpie players at $400 a game and play rookie AFL players in a lower grade team, if that's what they do.

The inevitable result will be that the other SANFL teams rightly call for sanctions. They already don't trust Port's word, with good reason.

A major part of the problem, which provokes distrust among other SANFL clubs, is that the purported facts of the arrangement seem to keep changing. Back in September, the following statement appeared in the press.
QUOTE: "MAGPIES in the SANFL league competition. This team will be made up of Power-listed players not chosen to play in the AFL. There will be 15 "top-up" players. They will be paid a maximum $400 a game and can be any age.
AN ACADEMY team in the SANFL reserves competition. These scholarship holders - who will include Magpies father-son picks, indigenous hopefuls from the NT and international recruits - will be aged 18-22. These players can earn no more than $100 a game.
The academy team will replace the Magpies reserves and under-age teams from 2015 when Port will lose its SANFL recruiting zones in the city and on the Eyre Peninsula."
In this morning's Advertiser, we read that the SANFL has refused a request from PAFC, that Steven Summerton be it's "Sole leadership player" (who must be over 28) I don't recall anything about such an arrangement being mentioned in September? I'm guessing that this 'leadership' player will be getting more than $400 a game. Interestingly the same article mentions that Port have recruited a top up player from South Barwon. (Anthony Biemans) It was my understanding that both Port and the Crows would select their top up players from South Australia. As I said, Just when you think you know what's going on, up pops some new twist. As the gentleman who does the TV commercials says "Trust - Who can you?"   

What I did like was the SANFL rejecting a request from Port Adelaide to retain Steve Summerton as their sole 'Leadership' player he is 25 and the rules are you have to be 28.

I wonder how much Steve Summerton is being paid next year?